The other is about the differences between chapters, stories, series, and collections, and why you should choose carefully which you use for different fics.
I am not affiliated with the Archive in any formal way, and never have been, even as a volunteer, but I do use the archive A LOT both for posting my own stories and reading other peoples', so take my opinion for what it's worth. Here's my take on stories/series et al on AO3:
To decide how to categorize your writing on AO3, you should take into account both what feels good for you as a writer, and what works for your readers, as well. You want people to be able to find what they're looking for easily (so they won't throw their hands up in disgust), you want everything related to be together, you want them to be encouraged to comment/kudos. And some people (like me) who are fandom veterans and download copies of every fic they like for personal archival purposes (I've seen too many beloved fics disappear), and it takes very little effort for us to be happy, too.
A story/work is the basic unit. It has a beginning, middle, and an end. It may be long or short, and it may or may not contain internal subdivisions (chapters). You should be able to read it on its own with no problems, and nothing other than a few sentences explaining the previous works if it's part of a series. It can be a work in progress, but other than that, it should be complete in itself. This is what most people think of when they think of a story.
A story/work should not be a dumping ground for short unrelated pieces.
- If someone likes one of them and then gets excited that "oh, wow, there's 30k words of this story!" they are going to be VERY disappointed when they find out otherwise.
- If someone is looking for one particular trope (say, wing!fic, or curtain!fic, or "Howard Stark's A+ Parenting," or any particular trope) and you tag the story as that because one piece has it, they will read the first section, maybe the second section, and probably give up in disgust because what they've read has nothing to do with whatever they're looking for. By putting short unrelated pieces together, you prevent people from finding (and hence READING) the stories of yours that they actually want to read. Lots of people simply are not willing to wade through all of the different tidbits to find the one tidbit that they want.
- It clogs up the tags, especially if you put pieces of different fandoms in the same "story." Say you have a work/story with three Harry Potter ficlets, two Naruto ficlets, and one Rivers of London ficlet. You tag it with all of those fandoms; it appears in the works list for all of those fandoms. Then you add two more Harry Potter ficlets and a Once Upon a Time ficlet. Every time you do that, it goes to the top of the tag for every fandom it is tagged in. This is especially annoying for the small fandoms, where they don't get much new fic, and they get excited because yay, new fic! only to be disappointed that it is not, in fact, a new fic in their small fandom. They will probably be very annoyed with you and less likely to read your fic in the future because it feels like you are using bait-and-switch tactics. (Yes, I have heard more than one person in more than one small fandom complain about this.)
- You will get fewer readers. Most people choose to read a story based on the summary. They may use tags to find stories they might like, but a large part of the decision on whether or not to read this particular story is the summary. If you have a lot of unrelated short pieces together, you can't really write a summary that has stuff about them all, and hence you are DRAMATICALLY reducing the number of people who will read any of it.
- Sometimes people are looking for a long fic, and will click on a tag (fandom, character, pairing, other tag) of stories they'd like to read and sort by length. Your collection of unrelated ficbits now looks like a long story of the type they want to read! Except it's false advertising, because it's not 50k words of what they want, it's 783 words of what they want with 49k words of other stuff they don't care about. Chances are, they will be very annoyed, and more annoyed if they don't figure out what the deal is right away.
- You will get fewer kudos. If each ficlet is its own thing, and someone reads two of them and likes them, they can kudos both of them. If they are part of the same story/work, they can only make ONE kudos for everything altogether.
- If someone does read all of it, and likes one ficlet but not any of the rest, and they make a habit of downloading their favorite fics to read while commuting or for personal archival purposes, they won't be able to do so.
- There are two exceptions to this. One is for drabbles (true drabbles that are exactly 100 words) and other ultra-short things. Even if you put 50 drabbles together, that's still only 500 words total, and the very smallness mitigates against many of the problems.
- The second exception to this is if you have a series of longfics, and also some really short scenes and gapfillers and outtakes and whatnot. Then you can put them in one story with a summary that tells what it is--"short stories and outtakes from my [whatever] series"--and people won't mind. Everything is there in one place, easy to find (if they like that series) or avoid (if they don't). Everything is clearly labelled and easy to find. It's not clogging up the tags. Even so, if there's something that stands on its own as a story within the series, I would recommend making it its own work, rather than just a chapter in a jumble of scenes.
It is better to have a single work marked as a WIP than to have each chapter of your story posted as a separate work. A chapter is a short piece that does not stand on its own but must be read in order with the other parts of the story.
- Someone looking for a complete work will be very disappointed. They thought they were getting a complete story, and all they're getting is one chapter in a WIP. There are some people who don't read WIPs, only complete fic. If each chapter is a separate work, they can't tell if it's complete or not ... so they won't read it.
- The default at AO3 is to view a fic chapter-by-chapter, but you can also set it to view an entire work all at once. If you post each chapter as its own work, nobody can do this. Those readers who prefer to read a whole work in one page will be annoyed or disappointed.
- Those who download fics to read offline or for archival purposes will find it much more difficult. Instead of downloading one story, they'll have to download a lot and figure out how to get them in the right order on their device.
- It's false advertising. People know what a story is, and they know what a chapter is, and if you give them what is basically a chapter and tell them it is a whole work they will be annoyed. Annoying your readers is counterproductive.
- You clog up the tags. This is especially annoying if you're posting frequently in a medium/small fandom. Someone clicks on that fandom and they get a whole slew of "works" that are, in fact, just different chapters of ONE story. It drowns out other stories and thus annoys other authors and any potential reader who wants to find more than just your fic.
A series is a group of related works/stories in the same plot arc set in a particular order, be it chronological or otherwise. When you put things in a series, you are telling your reader a couple of things. First, that all of these stories belong together quite closely (more closely than a collection) and that they should be read in a particular order.
A collection is a group of works or stories that you believe belong together for whatever reason. Maybe it's "all the fic I've written about Bitty cooking." Or maybe it's "all the fics I've written in any fandom with kidfic." Or maybe it's "all of my favorites." Or maybe it's "all of my tumblr meta ficlets."
Note: I don't think there's much point in creating collections or series with all of your works in a particular fandom in them; it's super-easy for a reader to find them without you doing anything. They click on your username, and get taken to your dashboard with a list of the fandoms you've written in right up there top center. Clicking on the one they want will take them to all of the works you have written in that fandom. On the other hand, it's not like there's any problem with it, or any inconvenience it causes your readers, so it's purely a matter of personal preference.
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Date: 2017-05-20 11:54 pm (UTC)From:I mean, I can see why you dislike this practice, and I see the disadvantages as well, which are somewhat worse for texts than for pictures, but having every scrap as single work is not better.
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Date: 2017-05-21 04:13 am (UTC)From:The thing is, I don't get why anyone bothers to post ficlets that way, because you're really reducing your readership. If you post a ficlet by itself, I might read it if it strikes my fancy. If it's posted in one of those frankenfics, there's like a 2% chance that I will bother to wade through it all to find the ficlets that I want to read. And every time I've seen anybody talking about frankenfics anywhere, it's been complaining about them. I mean, if you don't actually care if anyone sees your ficlets, sure, post them that way. But if you don't care if people see them, why bother to post at all?
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Date: 2017-05-21 08:43 am (UTC)From:And I like reading ficlets by authors this way because I can download them easily read on my e-reader. I am not going to download fifty snippets individually but I do download short ones as a single "story" especially if they are all vaguely related like e.g. fandom headcanon snippets or such. I am sure there are utilities that could collate things for me to read, but I don't bother with that.
I agree that a total jumble with no common random or theme is much less useful.
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Date: 2017-05-21 10:16 pm (UTC)From:If there was a utility that would do it (and I have looked for one, to see if I could easily assemble series into one file, particularly "series" where they should properly be one story/work), that would solve the problem. Alas, I haven't found any such thing.
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Date: 2017-05-30 06:20 pm (UTC)From:... And that's another reason why I'm not going to upload 100 Tumblr ficlets as separate fics. I'm not going to try to figure out a title and summary for something that's 400 words of a WIP I will otherwise never write. Frankly if I clicked on a fic like that on AO3 I would feel cheated. But I like having my Tumblr fics grouped together on AO3 because I like it when other people do that. I have been through a number of those incredibly frustrating "I read this awesome plotless little h/c snippet by so&so on Tumblr a year ago" searches and I love it when authors who write a lot of shortfic/commentfic put it all together so I can find and read it on AO3.
I mean, what it comes down to is, no matter what you do you're going to annoy somebody, so you may as well do the thing that annoys you, personally, the least.
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From:and I'll stop spamming now /o\
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Date: 2017-05-21 12:34 am (UTC)From:This is where I run into trouble because something I thought was a one-shot turned into a longer story. I posted the one-shot then a sequel and both of these I would argue can stand on their own, the third piece in the universe which I wrote to bring in another character accidentally developed a bad case of bigger plot. So now it's a case of feeling stuck in one format - the series - when part of me now thinks they might be better as chapters in a longer story.
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Date: 2017-05-21 04:17 am (UTC)From:There isn't a hard-and-fast line, but I do wish everyone thought about this before deciding how to post it.
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Date: 2017-05-21 03:01 am (UTC)From:Related works linked in a series is always useful. I don't read works that compile unrelated short fics. Tagged or untagged, there's no way to find the pieces that would be interesting to me. There's no sort fix for that.
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Date: 2017-05-21 04:18 am (UTC)From:And, yeah. The whole frankenfic thing just shreds the ability of ANY TAG OR SORT ATTEMPT to accomplish anything.
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Date: 2017-05-21 10:32 am (UTC)From:Also the GDocs/AO3 meta looks super-useful, thanks for sharing!
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Date: 2017-05-21 10:18 pm (UTC)From:So far, several people have commented about how they HATE those frankenfics, and one person who said "I like it for purposes of putting stuff on my e-reader, but only if they are all one fandom/pairing/theme etc." SO WHY DO PEOPLE DO IT?!?
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Date: 2017-05-21 11:31 pm (UTC)From:But I actually don't think people are trying to "game" the system. I mean, it has drawbacks as well for getting feedback, like that you can't get kudos on your individual things, just once for your collated work. So you might get more clicks but fewer kudos.
However there other advantages, besides the e-reader aspect. It can also help readers to subscribe to updates. On AO3 you can subscribe to an author, to a series or a story, but not subscribe to just things an author posts in your fandom or to collections updates.
Now let's say an author writes a ton of short Tumblr ficlets that are not a series. And is prolific in three fandoms. Two fandoms you dislike, one you love. If they post all as single works you have to subscribe to the author to catch them, and get roughly two useless mails for every update you actually want. If they have works "my Tumblr ficlets from fandom A" you subscribe to just that and don't get the other updates.
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Date: 2017-05-30 07:31 pm (UTC)From:They're using it as "a place to centralize all the fic that my tumblr readers And possibly I myself might be looking to find again, and don't want to use tumblr's terrible infrastructure."
They're using it purely as an archive, not as a bookshelf. They are archiving their fic in one place.
They are also attempting not to ENDLESSLY SPAM anyone who might be tracking them as an author, or the RSS feed that people set up, or to clutter up their own archive page extensively with tiny snibblits, and are using "series" in a different capacity; are mentally categorizing everything that goes in that part as "stuff that's finished or not important, stuff I haven't edited", whatever.
And a bunch of other reasons basically summed up as "they're not using the archive for the exact same set of purposes as many people commenting here, and that's actually allowed, and even encouraged by the Archive itself."
(Bluntly, if I were the kind of person who WAS a fannish butterfly and didn't tend to obsess intensely over one version of canon that moves into her head and lives there, or te kind of person who could have six different versions of one canon in her head at once, etc, I would absolutely use a "story" format this way: it's convenient, it's a way to mark all the stuff in it as "this is the grab-bag of fic ideas that never got bigger than this and don't have any connection with anything else, or anything longer, that I've written, it keeps my dash and my works-page tidy for my use, it lets me give a single tidy link when someone asks me 'where's that one you did about the thing?', and it doesn't twig my profound visual irritation at having a fic that is actually shorter than the individual header information the archive comes with automatically, and I don't have to come up with actual full Header Crap for something less than five hundred words.
I already use this as a way of collating too-short-to-feel-worth-it ficlets within the same verse that are not actually deeply related. *shrugs*)
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Date: 2017-05-30 07:53 pm (UTC)From:Speaking as someone who actually quite LIKES certain uses of what's described below as "frankenfic", who does not find "just click on 'fandoms' in their dash!" actually that convenient/useful and finds a lot of quite-short-fics in separate documents actually pretty irritating both as writer and reader, and in other ways differs in her use and preferences for the AO3 environment from what's above. Soooo.
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Date: 2017-06-02 08:34 pm (UTC)From: (Anonymous)Just saying.